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In this episode host Casey Seymour of Moving Iron LLC talks with regular guest Aaron Fintel, wholesale salesperson with 21st Century Equipment.
In this episode, Casey Seymour and Aaron Fintel of Moving Iron LLC discuss the used high horsepower, row-crop tractor market.
They'll also they continue their discussion talking about the row-crop tractor market in the year ahead.
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Kim Schmidt:
Hi, I'm Kim Schmidt, Executive Editor of Farm Equipment. Welcome to Farm Equipment's Used Equipment Remarketing Roadmaps podcast. In this episode, hosts Casey Seymour and Aaron Fintel of Moving Iron LLC, discuss the used high horsepower row crop tractor market.
Kim Schmidt:
In this episode, hosts Casey Seymour and Aaron Fintel of Moving Iron LLC, discuss the used high horsepower row crop tractor market. Before we head over to Casey and Aaron, I wanted to thank our sponsor, AgriSolutions. AgriSolutions is the market leader in wearable parts, components, accessories, and solutions for tillage, seeding, planting, fertilizing, hardware and inventory management solutions. Improve performance and durability with a wide range of infield and extended life solutions. To learn more about AgriSolutions and their globally recognized brands, such as Bellota, Ingersoll Tillage, and Trinity Logistics, visit agrisolutionscorp.com. If this is your first time listening, you can subscribe to the podcast on any of your favorite podcast platforms.
Kim Schmidt:
Okay, let's go at things going here's Casey and Aaron talking about what the row crop market's going to look like in 2022.
Casey Seymour:
All right, Aaron, the end of the year is rapidly approaching.
Aaron Fintel:
Rapidly.
Casey Seymour:
Today's date is the 22nd of December, so we've got exactly eight days left. Three days till Christmas, depending on if you are an adult or a child, you got three days to Christmas or eight days to think about what you're going to do the evening of the [inaudible 00:01:30].
Aaron Fintel:
There you go.
Casey Seymour:
You have one of two things happening there. One of the things...
Aaron Fintel:
Christmas is a warmup for New Year's Eve.
Casey Seymour:
That's right. That's right. We've been doing this series on what we think is going to happen in '22 based on equipment. This would be part three, and in part three, we thought we would talk about your high horsepower, like your typical row crop tractors, and then all the four wheel drives that come along with that. Basically, 300 horsepower and bigger is what we're going to focus on right now.
Aaron Fintel:
Yeah.
Casey Seymour:
Obviously, right now, at the end of the year, if you wanted to buy a row crop tractor of any kind, they're hard to find. Not saying they're not out there, but they're hard to find. They're out there, and you're going to pay for it if you want it, right?
Aaron Fintel:
Right.
Casey Seymour:
We've talked here, over the past couple of podcasts, we've thrown this from November through end of February, 1st part of March, would be an excellent time to sell a piece of equipment if you have the wherewithal to do so. I still stand by that. I don't think that there's any reason that any of that is going to change going into '22.
Aaron Fintel:
Well, do you mean it's going to soften after the first?
Casey Seymour:
No, I mean we still have that same... There's nothing now, there's not going to be anything in January.
Aaron Fintel:
Right. Right.
Casey Seymour:
It's the same thing. So you have this... because I think guys are going to be looking at planting, guys are going to be looking at spring harvest, those kind of things and what they're going to need going into that.
Aaron Fintel:
The only thing I can think of is this. I know nationwide, there's been a lot, a lot, a lot of new tractors sold, and not a lot of trade-ins. Guys are going to sell them themselves. They're going to keep them, whatever. That could be an unknown, hidden supply next year.
Casey Seymour:
It could be.
Aaron Fintel:
To your point, January to March, they're certainly not going to give up and be like, "Oh, my new one's here. Yeah. I'll just go ahead and trade that in, and get it sold." No, because now the clock is ticking for the buyer, not the seller.
Casey Seymour:
Right.
Aaron Fintel:
It's on the buyer in the real world.
Casey Seymour:
Right, exactly.
Aaron Fintel:
To your point, it won't happen then, but it could through the year.
Casey Seymour:
Yeah. As I look into '22, and I look at the tractor situation, most all manufacturers have got not much in the first quarter going down, more in the second quarter, even more in the third quarter, and in the fourth quarter there's even more than that. I'm not making this out to be by Q4 '22, all of a sudden, oh, we're gumdrops and candy canes, baby. We're back in business.
Aaron Fintel:
Right. Right.
Casey Seymour:
The reason that... Even if supply catches up, demand's still going to outpace it, because so much of that stuff's pre-sold.
Aaron Fintel:
Oh, absolutely.
Casey Seymour:
So much of those [crosstalk 00:04:23].
Aaron Fintel:
Everything. If you're getting it, it is sold, point blank. So it's all pre-sold.
Casey Seymour:
Yep. So it's one of those things where all I need is the new one to show up and I've got this fun game of watching the dominoes fall to the end of my trade cycle, and I'm good to go.
Casey Seymour:
As you look out, how much do you think that "season of use" is going to slide from what we're normally used to, what we've seen over the last five to seven years, in hour-wise? If you typically saw 300 hours, what's the new 300-hour tractor look like?
Aaron Fintel:
It could very easily be drastic, either way.
Casey Seymour:
I think it's a thousand hours.
Aaron Fintel:
Oh, I don't think it's that drastic. I was going to say it could be 150 and it could be 500.
Casey Seymour:
Here's why I think so. If your new one is coming some time in '22, It should have gotten here at the end of Fall harvest '21. Now you're going to have to use that all the way through all of '22 to potentially get that in third or fourth quarter, you're going to put another, if you put 500 to 700 hours a year on a machine, if you've got your machine out there and let's just say, hypothetically, you got a machine late '21, June, July, August '21, and you ran it through your Fall harvest. Typically, you would get your normal drop of equipment in that first, second quarter timeframe, that March timeframe, where a lot of stuff gets delivered.
Casey Seymour:
Not going to happen this year. We're going to be June, July, August, again, maybe even into the fourth quarter, depending on where you're at, you could run that thing 300 hours in Spring, planting, tillage, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Then, you get into Spring harvest, grain cart tractor, this, that, and the other thing, and then you get into Fall harvest, and you put another number out.
Aaron Fintel:
Yeah.
Casey Seymour:
I can see that 300-hour tractor now is a thousand hours.
Aaron Fintel:
Yeah, and especially on that exact tractor, because you're not starting at an interval, you're catching it in the middle, so you grab an extra...
Casey Seymour:
Right.
Aaron Fintel:
That's where you're getting your hours.
Casey Seymour:
Yeah.
Aaron Fintel:
I was just thinking of it as, it's a 300 this year, new one didn't show up, so your 300 should be a six, instead of a one-year-old 300 that doesn't exist, it's a two-year-old 600.
Casey Seymour:
Right. That's one thing I'm looking at, I look at those kind of things right there, because back to your point, had they gotten it in beginning of Spring, like they normally would've for Spring tillage, planting, grade cart tractor on the wheat run, Fall harvest going into Fall tillage. They're using that thing. That's one course you could be anywhere between 500 to 700 hours, depending on the size operations.
Aaron Fintel:
Right, yeah.
Casey Seymour:
That makes sense. Possibly now you're going to do half of that, plus another year to do all that, depending on what your scale and scope is, you're 800 to 1,000 hours. That's going to be the new, my opinion, that's going to be the new, late model, low [inaudible 00:07:36] stuff.
Aaron Fintel:
I think you're still going to have a giant gray area out there, and I visited it numerous times last couple days, on these floating finish, that's what I call it.
Casey Seymour:
Floating...
Aaron Fintel:
We're not real sure, it might be 100 more hours. It might be 300 more hours. Then you're falling into different markets. Okay, if it's 100, but it shows up with 200 extra, is he renting it at that point? The numbers are adjusted. That's the thing that lies out there on a lot of this stuff across the country.
Casey Seymour:
Back up. Explain that.
Aaron Fintel:
You trade your tractor 3,300 hours.
Casey Seymour:
Okay. Yep.
Aaron Fintel:
You're a 500-hour a year guy. What you're buying is not here for half of a season of use, we'll say.
Casey Seymour:
Okay.
Aaron Fintel:
That thing's supposed to show up... His new tractor's supposed to show up in April.
Casey Seymour:
Okay.
Aaron Fintel:
He's a big Spring work guy, but it doesn't, and it shows up in June for some reason. So it is the full season of use, the full Spring season, the extra hours, that's what I'm getting at. That's the whole point, the extra hours. We think it'll be this, but it could very well be a hell of a lot more. You know what I mean?
Casey Seymour:
You have me lost a little.
Aaron Fintel:
As dealers across the country, are waiting on new...
Casey Seymour:
Oh, you're saying you don't know when the new one's going to show up, and you're trying to guess when the new one's going to show up, and how many hours are you going to put on it?
Aaron Fintel:
Right.
Casey Seymour:
Okay.
Aaron Fintel:
Right. That is between the customer and the dealer and everybody involved has their fingers and toes crossed, and there you go.
Casey Seymour:
Yeah, that's my point. That's what I'm saying, is because delays have been an issue since 2020. Everything's been pushed back, pushed back, pushed back. Oh, this is on time, and then you get, "Oh, well, you know what, the flux capacitors didn't come in," so we've got to wait a minute, wait on enough stuff to show up, and you get pushed back two weeks. Well, now two week turns into four weeks, turns into six weeks. Next thing you know, you're two and a half months away from where you were originally. Oh, and by the way, now you've surpassed Fall harvest. Supposed to have been here in August.
Aaron Fintel:
Exactly.
Casey Seymour:
Now it's here September 1, November 1st, August 31st, that kind of stuff. Those kind of things you think you hear that... Now, this actually is something we should probably discuss a little bit, too. When you look at that specific situation, the way machinery has month, over month, over month... I did a podcast the other day with [Kyle McMahon 00:10:44] for [Tractor Zone 00:10:45]. He was talking that on row crop tractors from, I think it was row crop tractors, I've got to go back and verify this, but row crop tractors from November to December, or something like October to November, November, December, it was November, December... Auction value, and retail advertised value, because they're now doing retail stuff too, jumped 9% in value in the month.
Aaron Fintel:
Wow.
Casey Seymour:
One month.
Aaron Fintel:
Wow.
Casey Seymour:
Think about that for a minute. We're talking like tractors from a year and a half ago were up 9%, and we're over here going like, "Holy crap. The place is on fire!"
Aaron Fintel:
That's a lot of damn dollars in one month.
Casey Seymour:
Yeah. 9%.
Aaron Fintel:
Wow.
Casey Seymour:
9%. That means every $300,000 tractor that's out there. That's what, $27,000?
Aaron Fintel:
We'll do 30 for easy math, yeah.
Casey Seymour:
You know what I mean? So I mean, boom, boom, boom.
Aaron Fintel:
Wow.
Casey Seymour:
That's just over a month thing. I'm not saying that December to January there's going to be another 9% jump.
Aaron Fintel:
Right, right.
Casey Seymour:
There very well could be, between January and March, there could be another 9% jump.
Aaron Fintel:
I find that incredibly intriguing that both markets were the same. That's proof positive right there, if a producer wanted... you've got to hear both sides of the story. This is one of those things. Producer hears dealers went up 9%, November to December, or whatever. My guess is it was probably October to November. Just ballistic. Well, auction did the same thing, and that's them.
Casey Seymour:
Right.
Aaron Fintel:
That's not us.
Casey Seymour:
Right.
Aaron Fintel:
There isn't a dealer buying anything on an auction, because we can't afford to.
Casey Seymour:
Well, yeah, that's the funny thing though. If you're betting on the come here, and that's what we do, for the longest time we were like, "Okay, we're going to go out here. We're going to roll the dice, and hope to God that we make five or 10,000 bucks doing this."
Aaron Fintel:
Yep.
Casey Seymour:
If you went to an auction as a dealer and bought something, making that gamble right now, if you gambled that in November, you made 9% December.
Aaron Fintel:
Oh I get it, yeah.
Casey Seymour:
You know what I mean?
Aaron Fintel:
Right. That's wild.
Casey Seymour:
That's the crazy... You bring something in, you let it sit there and you give it a quick minute to catch its breath there out on the lot, and all of a sudden it's gone. You made 9%. You could have had, you could see it... Because that's another thing too, he said, between the last six months of '21 or something like that, the whole of 2021 over 2020, the price of row crop tractor increased 36% auction value... 36!
Aaron Fintel:
36%!
Casey Seymour:
Yes.
Aaron Fintel:
In one year, year to year!
Casey Seymour:
One year, one year.
Kim Schmidt:
We'll get back to Casey and Aaron in a moment, but first I wanted to pause to thank our sponsor AgriSolutions. To learn more, visit agrisolutionscorp.com. Now, let's get back to Casey and Aaron, as they continue their discussion talking about the row crop tractor market in the year ahead.
Casey Seymour:
Now you start thinking about work.
Aaron Fintel:
Oh yeah.
Casey Seymour:
You see what I'm saying?
Aaron Fintel:
Yeah, I get that. That's the other side of the coin, it's a huge gray area, but it's so bad shit crazy out there.
Casey Seymour:
It doesn't matter.
Aaron Fintel:
Yeah, because at the end of the movie, that thing comes in 500 more hours, who cares? Thank God we have something to sell.
Casey Seymour:
But the other thing about that, too, is from the buyer's perspective is, "I want more from my trade. So I bet..." "Let's do it, buddy. I'm going to give you market value for your trade in, and now you're going to buy mine from..." And guess what? The trade difference is probably the same.
Aaron Fintel:
Right, exactly.
Casey Seymour:
You know what I mean? You're probably still at the same place you started.
Aaron Fintel:
What numbers do you want to see?
Casey Seymour:
Right. You got...
Aaron Fintel:
Look good, or real?
Casey Seymour:
You've got used tractors now worth $50,000 more than what it was. The one you're buying is also worth $50,000 more than what it was. Now, your trade value is the same thing. At the end of the day, your cost of operation went down, because you got more for your trade.
Aaron Fintel:
Right.
Casey Seymour:
It's still the same trade difference. But you're out...
Aaron Fintel:
From step one, you just squeeze the equity.
Casey Seymour:
Yeah. You just made it look that much better.
Aaron Fintel:
Yep.
Casey Seymour:
You know what I mean? All things that I would absolutely...
Aaron Fintel:
Financial statement.
Casey Seymour:
Those are all things I think are worth paying attention to right now.
Aaron Fintel:
Oh yeah.
Casey Seymour:
I've been given that a lot of thought lately, just on how do you handle the situation, and what's it look like? What's fair, what's not fair. How do you make everything work like it's supposed to. To me, I just think you know the new one's coming, or the used one from the new one's coming, or whatever it is. To me, my personal opinion is you've got to weigh those things when you're ready to do the deal.
Aaron Fintel:
That's exactly right.
Casey Seymour:
Now, all that being said, let's talk about four wheel drives for a minute.
Aaron Fintel:
Awesome.
Casey Seymour:
To me, they're the new row crop tractor.
Aaron Fintel:
Sexy rigs.
Casey Seymour:
Yep.
Aaron Fintel:
Well, you're right. Everything's so big. Also, wasn't very long ago and 300 horse was not a thing in a row crop tractor. Now, everybody and their dog makes a four.
Casey Seymour:
Right. Yep. Now you start looking at four wheel drive tractors. Four wheel drive tractors are the one tractor spectrum that's out there, that is...
Aaron Fintel:
Love/hate.
Casey Seymour:
Very much so. There's no real rhyme or reason or consistency to what...
Aaron Fintel:
Yeah!
Casey Seymour:
You know what I mean?
Aaron Fintel:
Right.
Casey Seymour:
They'll take off, and run, and be wild and crazy for a minute, and you'll sit there and like, "Why are four wheel drive's so..."
Aaron Fintel:
Well, I remember in the $7 corn era, they were soft as hell.
Casey Seymour:
Right.
Aaron Fintel:
You could flip four wheel drives all day long. Why on earth?
Casey Seymour:
That's just the thing, you'll have a three or four month run; four wheel drive, you can't get enough of them.
Aaron Fintel:
Right.
Casey Seymour:
Then, you wake up the next morning, then they're like... [crosstalk 00:16:59].
Aaron Fintel:
What are we going to do with this?
Casey Seymour:
What are you supposed to do with a four wheel drive?
Aaron Fintel:
Right, exactly.
Casey Seymour:
Well, I don't know. What'd you do with it before?
Aaron Fintel:
Right.
Casey Seymour:
You sure wanted one then.
Aaron Fintel:
The four guys that wanted one bought one, now what?
Casey Seymour:
Yeah, so now...
Aaron Fintel:
What kills me is they can have their hottest times in $3.50 corn, and $2.50 wheat.
Casey Seymour:
Yep. Yep. Where the four wheel drive has made its transition, and things have started to drift around, is how they're spec'd anymore. We talk about this a lot. Four wheel drives have... A lot of them have three points on them anymore. Most every one of them, I don't want to say every one of them, but I would say 80 plus percent of four wheel drives were ordered with a PTO.
Aaron Fintel:
Oh yeah.
Casey Seymour:
I'm not talking... The 8440 had its run, where I think the PTO and three point where a standard, because I've never seen one that didn't have one on it. That being said, now, you have 620 horsepower, 570 horsepower, 600 horsepower, and all of them have PTOs.
Aaron Fintel:
Absolutely.
Casey Seymour:
You know what I mean? Beforehand, people would be like, "Why on earth would you spend that kind of money to put a PTO on something like that?"
Aaron Fintel:
If they're two track, or four track, they might also have three point.
Casey Seymour:
Yeah. My short answer to that is, 2000-bushel grain carts.
Aaron Fintel:
Absolutely.
Casey Seymour:
That's why. 120,000 pounds of grain. That's why.
Aaron Fintel:
Welcome to the rail car.
Casey Seymour:
Yeah, exactly. What's that Australian thing called?
Aaron Fintel:
Mother bin!
Casey Seymour:
Mother bin, that's it.
Aaron Fintel:
Mother bin.
Casey Seymour:
Those things are a 4,000-bushel cart on wheels, or something like that?
Aaron Fintel:
Yeah. But the wheels are just for when it's empty, you just park it.
Casey Seymour:
Right. So it's things like that.
Aaron Fintel:
That's basically what it is, is a rail car. It's actually bigger.
Casey Seymour:
Right. So now you're looking at machines like that, where they're going to get... Things are going to get bigger, 'til they get smaller. This roll out like you saw here with Deere's thing on the internet the other day, they're rolling out January 4th, an autonomous tractor. The way I gathered from it, sounded like it was going to be a production thing. This is going to be, you might win the bet, but I might be...
Aaron Fintel:
That's all the matters.
Casey Seymour:
I might be two years late to the party. I'm like the machinery link of betting on autonomous tractors, a little ahead of my time.
Aaron Fintel:
There you go.
Casey Seymour:
You know what I mean?
Aaron Fintel:
Absolutely.
Casey Seymour:
When things start getting smaller, and start moving into more machines working in the field autonomously...
Aaron Fintel:
You know what else it is? With the four wheel drive popularity, it's not just how big, how wide everything is, it's how damn fast you've got to pull it. That takes a lot of power when you pull whatever it is at speed, and that's how everything is going; high speed tillage, vertical tillage, high speed planters.
Aaron Fintel:
You take a DB90 high speed, and that takes ponies.
Casey Seymour:
You see those guys in planting season. There's always a guy that rolls it out in planting season. He's got the 9RX with the DB120, exact merge planter. Now you're pulling... Could you imagine that, dude? 120 feet of planter trying pulling it between 8-10 miles an hour.
Casey Seymour:
That's some acreage, bro.
Aaron Fintel:
That is a lot of acres.
Casey Seymour:
Hope that there's not a hill anywhere in between there, because you're going to have an issue with 8-10 miles an hour, 4-6.
Aaron Fintel:
I hope every field is a section. If it's smaller than a section, I'd get damn tired of turning around. It would be a lot. You get in that river bottom ground along the Mississippi, where they just go, that's a big deal, but that's...
Casey Seymour:
I get it.
Aaron Fintel:
That takes some ponies to do that.
Casey Seymour:
Absolutely.
Aaron Fintel:
You talk about high speed tillage. Now you're starting to look at... The old rule of thumb forever has always been 10 horsepower per foot. Now you start looking at some of these things. You go take that same adage and put that against the same deal. Not only is it woefully underpowered, you're going to need about twice as much horsepower as you did.
Aaron Fintel:
If you have a 30 foot disc pulling it with a 300 horsepower tractor, back in the old days...
Casey Seymour:
Or five years ago.
Aaron Fintel:
Yeah. The old Sunfire 1436 around...
Casey Seymour:
There you go.
Aaron Fintel:
Get that thing out there, and now all of a sudden that same disc now is going to require almost 20 horsepower per foot. Now you're going from 300 to 600 horsepower. Not only do you have a problem when you start looking at... That's the thing, you can't just get... Those discs are designed to pull fast.
Casey Seymour:
Yeah. I was just going to say...
Aaron Fintel:
You can't get one...
Casey Seymour:
The word disc shouldn't really be on them, other than they do have concave blades going each way, but they're nothing at all what the world... Like the tandem disc.
Aaron Fintel:
Right.
Casey Seymour:
That's probably the biggest thing that people don't always wrap their head around, "Well, I have a 30 foot disc, why can't I pull that?" I don't think you can pull 20 down the road. They're also ungodly heavy. They're just insanely heavy. You pull that lead sled through the field as absolutely fast as you can sit in the seat. You're right. If you go out, and you take a Pro Till out, and you go out there five and a half mile an hour...
Aaron Fintel:
It's going to be horrible.
Casey Seymour:
It's going to be god-awful. You're going to hate that thing. You go out there at eight, nine...
Aaron Fintel:
You have a whole different, special...
Casey Seymour:
Yeah. Love it to death. You're kicking back going like, "Man, I'm glad I got this thing."
Aaron Fintel:
We're in a world, everything is 10 mile an hour.
Casey Seymour:
Yep.
Aaron Fintel:
That is everybody's number.
Casey Seymour:
Yep.
Aaron Fintel:
Planting, tillage, [doing a rowhead 00:23:10] on an X9.
Casey Seymour:
A rowhead going 15 mile, bro. Road speed through the head full.
Aaron Fintel:
We've got really special gathering chains on this thing.
Casey Seymour:
Yep. All right, man. That's pretty good jumping off point here. If folks wanted to reach out to you, and get more information about what it is you've got going on, or just what you have hanging out there, what's the best way to do that?
Aaron Fintel:
Well, you can call me, or text me (308) 760-1193. I'm usually pretty active on the Twitter verse, but I got a new phone two weeks ago, and I'm still locked out of Twitter, so there's that.
Casey Seymour:
There you go.
Aaron Fintel:
I can get on with my laptop, but...
Casey Seymour:
It's those Russian bots.
Aaron Fintel:
Why would you do that?
Casey Seymour:
Exactly.
Aaron Fintel:
It's because I don't remember any passwords. It wasn't auto saved, or...
Casey Seymour:
It's not "eatlamb" or something like that?
Aaron Fintel:
You would think.
Casey Seymour:
All right. I am Casey Seymour. You can find me on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram. Go to movingironllc.com, and you can find everything that's moving iron related. I've got the dates locked down for the moving iron summit. Going to be back in Nashville again. The dates are going to be the 6th, 7th, and 8th of September, and it's going to be at the Hilton.
Aaron Fintel:
What days of the week?
Casey Seymour:
Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday.
Aaron Fintel:
Attaboy!
Casey Seymour:
We're going to get after it, but it's going to be at the Hilton Hotel there, right downtown Nashville. You literally walk out the back door, and [inaudible 00:24:41] is across the street. If you're looking to get together with a bunch of people, talk about what's going on in the [inaudible 00:24:48] marketplace, there's no better place to do that than the moving iron summit. Again, Nashville, Tennessee, September 6th, 7th, and 8th at the Hilton Hotel.
Casey Seymour:
I will have more information about that in the coming weeks; how to get signed up for that. If you're interested in that, make sure you pay attention to what's going on up there, and we can go from there. I'm Casey Seymour with my man, Aaron Fintel, [inaudible 00:25:17].
Kim Schmidt:
Thanks, Casey and Erin, and thanks again to Edgar Solutions for sponsoring this podcast. We've got even more used equipment remarketing resources that we're sending your way. In addition to this podcast, we're also tapping into Casey's expertise across all our informational channels. Find more from him in the [inaudible 00:25:32] magazine and on farm-equipment.com/asktheexpert, and you can keep up on the latest industry news by registering online to receive our free newsletter. Visit www.farm-equipment.com. On behalf of Casey and Aaron, as well as our entire staff here at Farm Equipment, I'm Kim Schmidt. Thanks for listening.
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