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Former Deere Dealership Celebrates 65th Anniversary with New Supplier

By Justin Head
The Evening Tribune

Canaseraga, N.Y. (Dec. 28, 2009) - Red is alive and selling well for Canaseraga's Charles F. Oliver & Son tractor supply and repair business.

A year ago, Charles Oliver, 67, signed a contract with the agricultural manufacturer AGCO to sell the Massey Ferguson and Hesston line of tractors – after selling John Deere products since 1945. The business is now celebrating its 65th anniversary with a new line of products that gave the third-generation family business a new lease on life.

"It's been a good year for us with a new supplier, said Charles Oliver. "For a new supplier it's been a really good year."

"We probably sold more units than we thought we would," said son, Kevin Oliver,"quite a bit more, actually, especially with the economy the way it is."

The Olivers have sold about 70 Massey Ferguson tractors in 2009, 60 to 70 percent of what the business sold under the John Deere name, but a number that has allowed Oliver's to generate about $5 million in sales and turn a profit in a pivotal year.

John Deere pulled its contract with the business in October of 2008 after 63 years.

Charles Oliver said John Deere measures its stores by sales volume and is pushing for multiple-store dealerships -- something with which he was unwilling to comply. He also said the John Deere company did not like his location.

Oliver was disgusted and angry over his contract termination, but willing to quickly turn over a new leaf when he signed another big tractor name less than two months later.

"Massey's quality is equal to Deere and I've noticed their compact units are better than Deere's. They have a better loader than Deere's and that's where business has been, with compacts and utility tractors, not large farming machinery," said Charles Oliver.

But that's what the Olivers had to get across to customers, and apparently they have.

"The acceptance of the brand has been excellent. I'd say we have kept about 90-percent of our customer base. People aren't going to drive an extra 50 miles to do business when we've got a good product here," said Kevin Oliver.

While the switch went over fairly smoothly, there was a bit of a learning curve, according to the Olivers. The store had to undergo an entire computer system change, send their mechanics back to mechanic school to learn more about the new line of tractors, and adapt to a new business model.

The business kept eight of its nine employees - having to part with a salesman – and recently renovated its showroom.

"We've pretty much worked out all the adjustments," said Charles Oliver. He said his business is planning on keeping the AGCO contract for a long period of time and maintains his supplier is thriving.

The store still services John Deere models and has parts on hand, but there is no hiding the family's bitter feelings towards its prior partner.

The Olivers said AGCO treats them better and has made operations involving advertising, warrantly claims, and parts stocking a lot easier.

"(AGCO) appreciates your business and they tell you that ... We are treated like customers and not subordinates," said Charles Oliver.

Charles Oliver said after more than four decades in the business he has seen a lot of changes in the area and especially in his line of work. He said dairy farmers are no longer buying equipment because milk prices are so low and he has watched the beginning of the disappearance of the family farm.

"Going around the horn here you'd see eight-10 farms," he said, adding that now there is only about four.

Charles Oliver is close to retiring, but will "always play a role in business operations." He is in the process of turning many of this administrative tasks over to Kevin. Also involved in operating the business is another Oliver son, Kitrick.

Posted December 28, 2009


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COMMENTS: 11
Posted from: Todd, 3/12/10 at 3:16 PM CST
It is horrible what Deere is putting its dealers through. But, as a Deere competitor, it could not be better for me. The Deere product line has been called junk by my customers, and the Deere attitude. Well, lets just say I gain a Deere customer at least every week.
Fight Back
Posted from: Lucas, 1/7/10 at 4:15 PM CST
If your a Deere dealer and the company is trying to push you out of business, push back and don't give in. The dealer agreement is solid, but their market share calculations which are primarily used to push out otherwise successful dealers can be challeged in arbitration. Deere won't admit it but the market share numbers can be proven wrong and are subject to manipulation. The contract says they can shut you down for market share, which is true. However, if challenged they'll have to prove they can accurately measure it, which they can't. Hang in there, help may be on the way. Several state attorneys general are taking notice. Maybe they will be able to stop Deere from stealing successful business and giving them away to their chosen ones. Dealers and customers have had enough and enough people have been harmed. Might even make a good story for a 60 Minutes or Dateline documentary.
Deere Retiree
Posted from: Gary, 1/7/10 at 10:22 AM CST
I worked for Deere on the marketing side for 33 years. What they have done to dealers and employees the last 10-12 years is discouraging and ultimately going to be a problem for the company. It is starting already from the employee side and the dealer side will not be far behind. It is sad this once magnificent company will soon be just one of the pack. John must be looking down with a tear in his eye.
Deere Strategy
Posted from: Pugsley, 12/30/09 at 6:16 PM CST
I am amazed there is a Deere dealer who doesn't owe anyone a dime? What a dream. In the last two years we have had a massive increase in stock holdings because of Order Fulfillment, our debt levels have gone through the roof. I think it is likely that the one-dealer sites could be the ones to survive and thrive because us multi-store locations are having our Balance Sheets blown out big time. Bob Lane worked wonders for the stockholders but transferred the problem to us.
Deere
Posted from: Fred Johnson, 12/30/09 at 9:25 AM CST
All Deere dealers that are on the outs with deere should look at Agco. Agco has likely the best product in the industry today. They have came a long way in 18 years.
Posted from: Amy, 12/30/09 at 7:53 AM CST
You should look at the compact tractor line Ventrac. The Ventrac is an all wheel drive articulating tractor with over 30 commercial grade attachments. The line is built in the USA and the company appreciates and supports their dealer base.
Deere Attitude
Posted from: Johnny Dough, 12/29/09 at 4:33 PM CST
I have been in business for 39 years and a John Dealer for 23 years. We have one location with 27 employees and a 10 year old 73,000 sq.ft building with a 10,000 sq.ft. showroom, and we don't owe a dime to anyone. I feel like we are the type of dealership that any manufacturer would by proud to be in business with. I became a ------ dealer ten years prior to Deere, now we are told that we are not in alignment with Deere and they have asked us to drop our other tractor line or come up with an exit strategy for Deere. Deere has told us the only reason people come in our door is because we are a Deere dealer. One of the points that you are judged on is market share, but who controls our market share? Because we are not in alignment and a multi-store dealership plus we have no input on our AOR (Area Of Responsibly) there are major programs and discounts that we are not allowed to participate in. At time the multi-store dealerships will receive over $2,800.00 that are not given to other dealers. On ZTR mowers this year the Multi dealer's net is $800.00 less that ours. Deere talks about loyalty to them, how can they ask a dealer not to sell other brands yet they sell to Home Depot and Lowe's, if it's good for the goose it should be good for the gander.

I to have been told that I can not pass my dealership with Deere intact, on to my son who has worked here for over 13 years. How does that make the next generation feel towards Deere as a supplier. As the average age of dealers including the multi dealership owners gets older, where do the manufactures think the generation of owners are going to come from. Look at the number of 55 to 60 year old dealer owners, 15 years from now who is going to invest and manage these dealerships if those children that grew up in the dealership are not allowed to carry on.

I am in hopes that the new upper management of Deere sees the error in the way they look at and treat dealers. Rather than the way prior CEO Robert Lane feels as the statement he made 08/14/07 in the Wall Street Journal "For years we talked about Deere as a family. The fact is, we are not a family"
deere
Posted from: ALLEN, 12/29/09 at 4:25 PM CST
Mr. Oliver was right.Deere's quality in the small tractors has left the building. I think gone to China.
Deere
Posted from: Scott, 12/29/09 at 12:39 PM CST
I too got caught up in Deere's merger almost 3 years ago. I was a successful independent CC&E dealer who had to merge w/ 3 Ag dealers. Was with them a little over 2 yrs. until I got the boot! I am reopening in my old place of business w/ other lines of lawn/commercial equipment and too, am considering Massey for their tractors. I am also bitter w/ Deere. Who wouldn't be!
Oliver change to AGCO from Deere
Posted from: Phil Lewis, 12/29/09 at 11:32 AM CST
Interesting story ... there can be a new life for those who are rejected by the omnipotent.
Former Deere
Posted from: Harry Wells, 12/29/09 at 11:06 AM CST
The Deere dealer in Farmington NY closed its store near me I will be looking at Agco's Massey for my my next tractor.

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